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Why humans still win (for now): Human-first conversion in an AI world

Why humans still win (for now): Human-first conversion in an AI world

Every time we push the boundaries of AI in legal marketing—automating intake forms, writing ad copy, optimizing media spend—there’s a voice in the back of my head reminding me of something simple: Conversion is human.

Yes, we track leads, analyze performance, and deploy AI tools across the funnel. But when someone lands on your website after an accident, a criminal charge, or the collapse of their marriage, they’re not looking for machine efficiency. They’re looking for reassurance. They’re asking, Am I in the right place?”

In a recent episode of Legal Marketing Radio, I talked with Ted DeBettencourt, co-founder of Juvo Leads. It turned into a broader conversation about AI’s limits, what empathy-driven intake looks like, and how we balance automation with the human touch.

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AI can automate tasks, but it can’t build relationships, earn trust, or read between the lines. In this episode, Chip LaFleur and Ted DeBettencourt break down how firms can use their human edge to drive better results in an AI-saturated world.

The empathy gap in AI

AI is a powerful assistant. It can summarize a page, predict click-through rates (with the right data architecture), or help us visualize multi-channel performance. But so far, it’s pretty bad at listening, really listening, to people in distress.

Ted shared that 62% of live chats on legal websites start with a question, not a booking request. And those questions aren’t always straightforward. They’re nuanced, emotionally loaded, or buried in uncertainty:

  • “I’m not sure if I have a case.”
  • “My son was arrested—what do we do next?”
  • “Do you handle something like this?”

This is where bots fall short. Not because they can’t ask for a name and phone number—they can. But because they don’t know how to be human. They don’t know how to say, “I’m so sorry that happened to you. Let me help you figure out the next step.”

And if you’re trying to convert legal leads, that’s the moment that matters.

Beyond intuition: Proving what works

Here’s where the conversation gets more interesting. Ted’s team doesn’t just claim that humans perform better. They prove it. Constantly. They run 30+ A/B tests at any given time, measuring how different scripts, video options, and pop-up styles affect conversion. Sometimes, what a client likes performs worse than what they don’t like. But the data wins.

This is a discipline we share at LaFleur. We build out measurement frameworks for clients because your preferences—yours or ours—shouldn’t outweigh performance. One client might say, “I don’t like chat popups.” That’s fine. We’ll test it. But if the popup produces 40% more leads, you have a decision to make: Do you want it to look the way you prefer? Or do you want more signed clients?

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AI as a teammate, not a replacement

At LaFleur, we use AI in hundreds of ways: to draft reports, surface insights from raw data, and even write SQL queries that help clients see what’s actually moving the needle. But AI doesn’t replace the core functions that build trust. That requires human judgment, emotional intelligence, and the ability to adapt in real time.

Ted described how Juvo tried a “hybrid” AI model and found it too rigid. The bot could handle the basics, but the second someone veered off-script, it collapsed. It couldn’t follow a complex thread of human emotion or legal nuance.

We’ve seen the same thing in content. A blog post generated entirely by AI may check the SEO boxes, but it rarely captures a firm’s unique voice or values. You need a human brain—and a human heart—in the loop.

What AI can do (and where it’s headed)

AI is evolving fast. Phone bots are improving. Chat models are becoming more context-aware. Eventually, we may see tools that can mimic empathy more convincingly. But we’re not there yet, and pretending otherwise puts your brand (and your intake) at risk.

Meanwhile, there’s real opportunity in pairing data science with empathy. Ted’s team is starting to use GPT to analyze outcomes across different practice areas. At LaFleur, we’re doing the same thing with ClearBoard—pulling multi-source data into a single warehouse and using natural language queries to surface insights you didn’t know to look for.

But none of this is plug-and-play. AI can’t replace strategy. It doesn’t know your client base. It doesn’t understand your market conditions. And it can’t build systems around what you care about most.

LaFleur: The smartest tech still needs a human touch

If you’re running a firm or managing marketing in a highly competitive space, this isn’t about choosing between humans and AI. It’s about building a smart, flexible system that lets each do what it does best.

We’re here to help you make sense of that system—whether that’s refining your intake process, designing better A/B tests, or layering in GPT analytics like we’ve done with Clearboard.

And if you want to hear the full conversation with Ted, check out the episode on Legal Marketing Radio.